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Where To Start Looking For Mahi - Ponce Inlet

Discussion in 'Fishing Chatter = anything to do with fishing' started by Rich M, Apr 12, 2018.


  1. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Basic Outrigger setup

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    This is what a live weed line looks like

     
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  2. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Who uses
    Gooney Birds
    Teasers
    or Daisy Chain teasers?

    If you do which do you use and how do you like them.

    I use the Gooney Birds below
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    Running Gooney Birds
    great action




    OK So do Gooney birds or teasers really work?
    Here is my trailer Gooney Bird with Teeth marks on it. The teeth marks are on both sides of it.

    I wounder if I should put a hook on it?

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  3. Rich M

    Rich M Senior Forum Member
    Fishing Chatter

    I do troll with the basic pattern but usually only with 4 or 5 rods.

    Teasers have ranged from an umbrella rig with spinner blades on snap swivels to birds and squid.

    The birds and squid seem to get some attention splashing & bouncing along.

    The umbrella rigs with spinner blades seem to attract remoras.

    I even tried some buzz bait blades to fabricate a teaser and as a lure too - nadda for those.

    Sam - I've always trolled ballyhoo using wire - does mono work much better?
     
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  4. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Yes and No

    Mono works better on Dolphin, BUT, you will loose some rigs on Wahoo, Kings, and Sailfish..
     
  5. mmunier1

    mmunier1 Pirate

    Thank you for the informational thread!
     
  6. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    How do your Wire Rigs?

    I do the twist with the EZ Twist

     
  7. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    How To Make a Mono Ballyhoo Pin Rig

    I like the wire going through the crimp, hook eye, and back around through the crimp. and I also like to burn the Mono end.


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    This video walks you through the step by step process of making a quick change ballyhoo pin rig for trolling for tuna, dolphin, wahoo and marlin. The quick change pin rig is primarily meant for meat fishing for tuna, dolphin and wahoo.

     
  8. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    How To Pin Rig a Ballyhoo onto your Pin Rig

     
  9. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Here is my list of what I use for rigging ballyhoo

    • Offshore Angler Bait Spring
    • 130 lb Fluorocarbon Leader
    • 150 lb Mono
    • 1.6 crimp Double Sleeves
    • 1.3 crimp Double Sleeves
    • #9 wire
    • 130 LB pro power swivels (small loop)
    • #9/0 hooks
    • 3/8 and 1/2 egg sinkers
    • Lighter = used to bur mono ends
    • Crimping Tool
    • Offshore Angler Bead Chain Rigs
    • Bait Rigging Tool – use to pull beads through bait
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    • Badge clips looped on a rod to hold = used for holding leader rigs neatly on the boat.
     
  10. Power4X4

    Power4X4 Junior Member

    wow that is a lot of information to read and grasp
     
  11. Watusi

    Watusi Pirate

    Great info hopefully one day I’ll get to try it
     
  12. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Also Note: when trolling without outriggers, you sold be using some flat-line click, this will hole you line town closer to the water, and the bait will swim better.

    Remember you are trolling your lines in a V pattern, the center rode is your shotgun line the furthest back from the boat, the two side pole lines are your post and starboard and will be at the bottom of your V, your bait will jump and not swim right without flat-lines clips attached to your stern.

    I use three of these
    Here is how I attached them to my Vessel.
    This one is about 12 years old, they last forever if you lube them.
    I made mine from regular outrigger clips, just cut off the looped pins, and use mono with crimps like these. because you can get two for around $12.00 vs one for $17.00...

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    Available on Amazon

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    Flat Line Release Clip


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    Available on Amazon
    https://amzn.to/2wGXmc1

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    Available on Amazon
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  13. Watusi

    Watusi Pirate

    More great info... thanks again for sharing your expertise. Creating good fishing karma with every keystroke. Your next fishing trip should be awesome!
     
  14. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    How to Make a Wire Ballyhoo Rig Dolphin/Wahoo Rig

     
  15. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    How To Make a Wire Ballyhoo Pin Rig for Wahoo Fishing

     
  16. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Save time and Pre Rig Your Ballyhoo at Homer with this rig.

    Weedless Ballyhoo Rig

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    The Perfect Weedless Ballyhoo Rig
     
  17. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Make your own Bally Rigging Tools and save lots of money.

    Ballyhoo Rigging Tools cost Price: $59.95

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    Make your own for FREE

    Here I used a rigging needle and spiral looped it around a nail punch and made a pig tail to clean out the guts of a Ballyhoo

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    Here I used a rigging wire and spiral looped it around a nail punch and made a pig tail to clean out the guts of a Ballyhoo
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    Here I used an aluminum arrow, cut it in half and V'ed the tip by cutting with wire snips.

    This can be used to debone the Ballywhoo
    and to pop out the eyes, two tools in one.

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    Close up photo
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  18. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Hard to fine flex leader wire, used to make the above weedless Ballyhoo rig

    49-Strand 270# Stainless Steel Shark Cable 30 ft

    • 270# Test Stainless Steel Cable (Bright
    • 30 ft Coil
    • Usable for Jewelry, Fishing, etc.

    Available on Amazon.
    https://amzn.to/2wMxDyX


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  19. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    OK So above you see the many ways you can rig your Ballyhoo baits.

    Now which do you use?


    Here is the dilemma most face:
    If you are fishing Ballyhoo for Dolphin you use Mono leader.
    If fishing for Wahoo you use Wahoo copper wire leader.

    So what happens if your are fishing for Dolphin and you are using Mono leader and a Wahoo slams your bait? Well if it strikes right on your hook, you have a good chance if reeling it in, but it still can shake it's head and cut your leader with it's teeth.

    So here is a good alternative;
    Use the above 49-Strand 270# Stainless Steel flex Cable on your 9/0 Weedless Ballyhoo Rig (like shown above),

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    Or use the Offshore Angler Bead Chain Rigs (as shown above) and have the teeth protection for your Wahoo and other tooth predators, while still using your Mono leaders.



    99% of the time the teeth will land on the hook or rig leader and not on your Mono leader. So there is no reason to use an all wire Wahoo leader.

    So what are your thoughts on these rigs?
     
  20. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    I called all the local Bait Shops and could only find the below Ballyhoo packs;

    Ballyhoo / Un-Rigged
    Mediums 12 Pack = 8" - 8½" $12.99
    Large 10 Pack = 10" - 10 1/2" 14.99

    Dredge Pack (50) 50 Select Ballyhoo 9" - 10" $40.00 Out Of Stock

    The Mullet are way to costly, I will be going to cast net my own.
     

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