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How Big Is Too Big

Discussion in 'Questions & Answers: Gain Angling Knowledge' started by Shark_bait, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. Shark_bait

    Shark_bait Pirate
    Thread Started By

    My boat is a 23.5 foot Grady White GuldStream, 10.5 foot beam, 10500 lbs. It's very big for a 23 foot boat. What conditions are safe for me to fish. I've always tried to go in 2-3 feet, 3-4 offshore. How rough can the sea be before it's unsafe to venture out? I realize wind and current, and period, also play a huge role. I just want to fish but know when it's not safe to be out.
    Alps likes this.
  2. saltlifedoc

    saltlifedoc Pirate

    I mean that's a judgment type thing, what's the wind like, rollers? confused seas? Timing between waves etc. That being said that's a seaworthy boat, I've been in worse in smaller boats but it's not fun.

    When we fished the winter sailfish tournaments regularly we'd be out in 5-6 ft seas pretty often and I'll tell you what.... it's not fun. If it wasn't a job I wouldn't of been out there.
    gilman likes this.
  3. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Should you go out boating today?

    See Link
  4. Alps

    Alps Swashbuckler

    Good info, examples. I check NOAA each trip...and I'm INSHORE!! But they aren't exactly accurate enough for my tastes, either. I realize weather forecasting is 'fuzzy art'...my father (USAF) started in it, but quickly requested transfer out --- "too much voodoo that I just doesn't make ANY sense". He went into electronics and never looked back.

    Good OP question, I appreciate it being asked. Thanks.

    So given Shark Bait's boat and modicum of skills...what's a good benchmark he should use as an upper limit? Anyone a clue?
  5. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    depends on navigational exsparance
  6. fishingfool

    fishingfool Lieutenant

    Everyone reacts differently to the ocean as does the boat you're in. Going offshore should be for the enjoyment of the trip. A choppy day can be miserable. Getting caught out there can't be helped but going out into a rough ocean can. Just use good judgement and respect the sea and the inlet. Don't be afraid to turn around if the conditions get worse. I turned around many a day while chartering. I've got over 3000 trips through Ponce Inlet - half before the jetties were built.
  7. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    Well Stated Captain Bob.
  8. paleoman

    paleoman Petty Officer

    So true. There are plenty of days left to fish if you heed these warnings. Why jeopardize life? Too many good days ahead, be patience. :good post:
  9. gilman

    gilman Matey

    agreed with above safty is about knowing the boat and people aboard. rough condition make the trip rough even for the die hards.
  10. Shark_bait

    Shark_bait Pirate
    Thread Started By

    Thamks for the answers, and I notiice no one else has gone out much in the last two weeks. Like you said, if it ain't comfortable it's no fun. I really need by the Eisenglass that did not come with my boat, or if it gets to 6 feet i get soaked. I figured out one problem I\ve been having. I really want a second display, but don't want to pay 4.5-5K for another MFD. so I'll get a 7" and run a 20 inch monitor off of that!!. Raymarine does have a remote to control it with, even though it\ll be my fishfinder mostly and the only time i adjust that is by accident :) I knew there had to be a way to avoid paying for two or three large MFDs, and now you all know what to to :)

    I saw that boat getting rolled video and that was scary./
  11. NSBJohn

    NSBJohn Pirate

    It sure is knowledge: knowing your boat and operating it properly. I have seen a large center console with twins roll over while fishing in the inlet a few year back.
  12. Specialist

    Specialist Buccaneer

    The boat will almost always be able to handle more than the human body can take. My rule is, as soon as it's uncomfortable for me or if it's too much work hanging on, etc. then I don't go out. I don't have as much fishing experience as Capt. Bob, but I do have 12 years of US Navy under my belt. After sailing on 4 ships ranging in size from a 400ft Frigate to an aircraft carrier, I have seen some of the worst the ocean can throw at you and I have a deep respect for the power of the sea. My worst is 40'+ seas on a fast frigate in the North Atlantic.

    No fish is ever worth my life.

    Since I have been on your boat, I would recommend the following:

    2-3 or 3-4 is alright as long as the wind chop isn't too bad
    5-6 can be doable only if you have about a 12 second or more interval on your swells

    Anything else than this I would say no way.
  13. Michael Walker

    Michael Walker Master Gunner

    with only a yak, going out or staying put is an easy decision,,more than a foot and no way.
  14. randyb

    randyb Greenhorn

    Always safety first.
  15. neal gamby

    neal gamby Pirate

    Following. Great information
  16. Rich M

    Rich M Buccaneer

    This is always an interesting topic - and I run a very small boat compared to that Gulfstream.

    Put me in the "if it aint comfortable, don't go" camp.
  17. paullm22

    paullm22 Newbie

    On the other side of this question...what is the size boat to where the conditions aren't as much of a concern? I know that one should look at the conditions before going offshore each time. However, does say like a 30ft boat more comfortably handle those 5-6fters rather than the 23ft boat? Would a bigger boat allow more days to get offshore if the conditions weren't 1-2 or 2-3s? Just curious.
  18. Nautical Gator

    Nautical Gator Forum Captain, Moderator, Peacekeeper Staff Member

    the height of the seas are not the concerns, it is the swell intervals in seconds that are the bigger problems... the larger the boat with a deep V is always better...

    A cabin with a hard top will keep you dry from splash and out of the rain. vs a center console will keep you wearing your slickers and tasting salt while burning you eyes. Had a few of them in my younger years.
    paullm22 likes this.
  19. Srfrdave

    Srfrdave Mate

    Also wind and swell direction if your in the stream can really jack up the swell. I agree with Specialist, even tho I haven’t been on your boat.
  20. amberjak

    amberjak Treasure Hunter

    Find something else to do if you are going to beat you crew up I would rather take the beating on way out versus on the way in if it is a 3 foot chop 2 seconds forget about it in a boat under 25

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