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Eating Out Of The Banana River

Discussion in 'Fishing Chatter = anything to do with fishing' started by deepsea, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. deepsea

    deepsea Greenhorn
    Fishing Chatter

    Raised in Satellite, ate fish from the river as a kid all the time. I just moved back after 12 years and a lot of my old buddies are saying they don't eat from the river anymore because of pollution...

    What are your thoughts on this??
  2. mak

    mak Moderator on Deck Staff Member

    It’s a shame we have to concern ourselves with something like that. I know up in Georgia all the lakes had recommended quidelines for each of the big reservoirs. i.e. Lake Lanier - largemouth has not more than 4 meals per month, catfish 1 meal per month, crappie 8 meals per month, etc.
    Kinda scary when you think about them saying fish are safe to eat but not more than x times per month...
    I haven’t checked to see if FWC had any sorts of similar guidelines.
  3. GaryD

    GaryD Junior Member

    I must say I have eaten my share of fish from the river with no issues.
    TheOldCodge likes this.
  4. lobey

    lobey Blackbeard

    pollution is just part of reality.....glysophate(roundup) is a biggie......so dont use it.....eating clean helps prevent more chemicals in the environment

    there are heavy metal testing that can be done....especially for those at increased risk through their history or work environment.....

    but in general if we are doing healthy things....like fishing(being outside getting sun), moving(exercise), drinking clean water...eating unprocessed mostly organic non-GMO foods, etc.....and not sabotaging our detox pathways we have better chance of toxins and toxicants being removed by our bodies.....

    reducing the overall body burden allows us a bigger cushion for eating things like fish(not farmed) that is generally better than many other things

    just staying leans helps if only because many toxins that are not removed are stored in body fat

    I would feel safer eating fish from most places than drinking diet coke ....eating pizza.....or cheap hamburger from a plastic tube
    scasios76 likes this.
  5. Rich M

    Rich M Carpenter

    The affects of the consumption of polluted fish won't be immediately noticeable... It has to build up in your body and will impact diff folks differently. PCBs, Mercury, herbicides, pesticides, heavy metals, etc. all different affects to different folks - kids and prego women getting the worst of it.

    I'd rather eat a snapper from offshore or a fish caught at the inlet over the trout & reds I catch & eat from inshore.

    There is something wrong with the water and the habitat - the fish populations are down and I can't put a finger on why. More folks fishing? X years ago the water was clear year round, then it was only clear during cool periods (winter), now it is cloudy in a lot of areas year round. There are fish kills in some areas. Some places that held a LOT of fish 5 years ago hold few now. Very sad. It is amazing that in a time when folks are environmentally aware, that this was allowed to happen. They are trying to appropriate $50 million for the lagoon - it is supposed to be matched with local dollars - will see if it passes through the legislature.

    I love to fish but won't fish the freshwater lakes around my house, not gonna just go catch & release when I like to eat fish. In central FL, most lakes and ponds in historically citrus areas are contaminated, the fish have similar restrictions to what Mak is talking about. FWC has a publication.
  6. mak

    mak Moderator on Deck Staff Member

  7. tomkeys

    tomkeys Pirate

    The no motor zone used to be one of my favorite spots. No one wants to say it, but I think the cruise ships must be a contributing factor.
  8. lobey

    lobey Blackbeard

    I totally agree ...especially with freshwater fish risk to benefit ratio......

    Here is a valuable tool to think about the fish / heavy metals ratio.....http://net-effects.und.edu/pdfs/Selenium-Mercury.pdf

    but in general most kids and people in general are not experiencing health issues such as diabetes....obesity,,,,cancer.....heart issues....ADD...ADHD... and associated problems with kids....as well as autism...etc...etc....that are caused by eating fish from any source.....

    oxidized vegetable oils and processed food and sickly raised meat and vegetables and the govt approved crap that most people ingest everyday are the primary cause and are easily removed and make all other toxicity problems worse because of toxic everyday overload.....

    this is a personal passion of mine....the health crisis in this country is pandemic and will financially destroy us very soon....there will be no money left to spend on protecting our environment...or anything else....if we depend on govt to protect our natural resources we are pitifully misled

    the question is perhaps not a direct one to poisoning a particular lagoon ....but how am I ..ME...contributing to an overall cleaner environment....how many chemicals do you use on your lawn?....in your cleaning supplies and detergents.....what do you eat that is polluting you ..your family and your environment?....will you spend more money on humanly and cleanly raised plants and animals?

    every dollar saved on cheap crap food goes directly into contaminating your local waterway!

    anyone want to share a local well raised cow?....http://www.deepcreekranch.biz/index.html

    plus ...anyone know a good local source of really good pastured chicken eggs?

    I just moved here so i am trying to find these types of resources...please share
  9. Saltgasm

    Saltgasm Matey

    This place may be far for many (Ocoee) but they have everything. Pricey, but they constantly have sales on many items.

  10. lobey

    lobey Blackbeard

    thank you.....anyone know of any locals that have chickens and or eggs in the ormond or flagler area?.....sometimes they will just have a sign on the road
  11. Rich M

    Rich M Carpenter

    TK - I do believe that development is our biggest contributor to the lagoon issue. The NMZ is an odd one cause it is basically a dead end with minimal water exchange...

    Lobey - As for the cow - take some time and get to know some folks. You'll likely meet a cattle farmer along the way - still a lot of them down here.

    Another place you can often find grass fed beef is at farmer's markets. That way you could probably get a couple pounds of meat and test it before you buy a 1/2 or 1/4. They just charge a lot if you go to a farmer who specializes in it - costs less to raise cattle that way and they charge more.

    Another option on the beef is waiting til end of summer - say October and just buy a cow somewhere. It will have eaten only grass for the past 6 months. Not 100% organic but grass fed - farmer isn't gonna feed them anything else unless he has to. All they do in summer is worm them periodically - needs to be done or the biting flies will give them worms.

    Salt - those sale prices don't seem crazy. Glad my wife doesn't know about the place.
  12. Jared

    Jared Pirate

    I have been eating out of this many years
  13. lobsterman

    lobsterman Seaman Recruit

    Great comments and education. I am no biologist, but I have been shrimping/fishing, scuba diving since the mid 80’s, and there is no doubt in my mind we are killing the environment. Quickly! I am sure I am not the only one to see the change. Reefs dieing, fish populations decreased, shrimping patterns change. The list goes on. The % of the population that actually hunt/fish is actually small. The majority never step foot off the concrete. Thus are obviously to the devistation. The hardest fight is to convince politicians and people to spend money on something that doesn’t Creat a higher tax/job/development base. And that they don’t receive instant gratification for there money.
  14. Specialist

    Specialist Buccaneer

    I definitely eat the shrimp that come out of the IRL and no strange lumps growing yet! :)
    Keith likes this.
  15. been eating out of the river and lakes for years, haven`t herd of anyone having any issues.
  16. Goggle Eye

    Goggle Eye Seaman Recruit

    my old buddies are saying they don't eat from the river anymore because of pollution...
    Their telling you the truth.
  17. aharp61

    aharp61 Master Gunner

    I eat the fish an am still here!
  18. kayakmike

    kayakmike Treasure Hunter

    WELLLLL, I'm still here, they taste pretty good
  19. miller

    miller Cabin Boy

    Thanks for the post, nasty stuff.
  20. SpecFisher16

    SpecFisher16 Cabin Boy

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